2008 Roxbury Race #25

8.2 miles - Judd's Bridge

August 23, 2008

8:30 am - 65 degrees, fog early, then sun

   

 

Next Week: The Roxbury Mile

Sheldon and Scannell

in the long 8.2 miler

    It takes a while to run 8.2 miles.  We started in a fog, with the sun just a white disk glowing through the clouds.  By the time we finished, most of an hour later for some, more than an hour later for others, it was bright and sunny, though mercifully the temperatures hadn't climbed that much. 

    Jeff Sheldon took off from the start, with Chris Deming on his heels.  That lasted a while, and Jeff went on to win by 101 seconds, but Taylor Phillips and James Moen overtook Chris to finish second and third, leaving Chris in fourth.

     Cindy Scannell beat Lynn Zuback by only two places overall, but more than three minutes on the stopwatch, to capture the women's crown this week.

Slowing down

    We all know that we usually slow down as the race gets longer.  The theory is that if you double the length of the course (and if other things aren't too different), then your pace per mile will slow down by a constant amount, about 20 seconds a mile for most people.  This amount is sometimes called the doubling constant.

    So, if you are fit and you can run a mile in about 6:00, we'd guess you can run two miles at about 6:20 per mile, for a total time of about 12:40.  On the other hand, if you can run a half-marathon at an 8:00 minute pace (1:44:48), then we guess you can run a marathon at about 8:20 per mile (3:38:20). 

    WebGuy likes mathematics, so he did some math on this idea to see if he could understand it a little better.  He took the data from today's 8.2 mile race and compared it to our paces from the 4.3 mile race on High Bridge Road back on June 21.  He took these two races because they were similar courses, down hill, then back up the hill, but one was just about twice as long as the other.  The data for the 15 people who ran both races is given below:

Slowing down
8.2 mi 23-Sep 4.3 mi 21-Jun Slowdown
1 Jeff Sheldon 49.08 6.00 24.52 5.47 13
2 Joe Mendes 57.05 6.58 28.37 6.39 19
3 Ed Sandifer 57.35 7.01 29.05 6.46 15
4 Steve Benoit 59.48 7.18 29.56 6.58 20
5 Ray Fico 60.25 7.22 30.32 7.06 16
6 Mark Zerbe 63.42 7.46 31.23 7.18 28
7 Dan Lynch 62.19 7.36 31.54 7.25 11
8 Chris Deming 52.58 6.28 31.58 7.26 -58
9 Tom McNulty 64.57 7.55 32.21 7.31 24
10 David Mariani 67.18 8.12 33.35 7.49 23
11 Bob Lewis 74.33 9.05 35.30 8.15 50
12 Lynn Zuback 72.20 8.49 35.53 8.21 28
13 Russ Pribanic 79.16 9.40 36.02 8.23 17
14 Scott Benjamin 72.31 8.51 36.06 8.24 27
15 Mario Hasz 73.10 8.55 36.24 8.28 27

Webguy decided to disqualify Chris Deming from this list because he actually sped up by almost a minute per mile as the race distance doubled, and we guessed that he wasn't trying very hard on June 21.  No offence, Chris.

With Chris kicked out of the data, the average slowdown for the 14 survivors was 22.7 seconds per mile.  The data seems to fit the theory pretty well.  The doubling constant for this data is a little more than 23 seconds (because 8.2 miles is a little less than double 4.3).

Why don't you try to calculate some doubling constants for your own races, and see if your experience fits the theory. (8/23/2008)

People    

    J T Schemm returned to Roxbury this week after a long absence.  Fifteen years ago, he was a Roxbury Regular and a track star for Brookfield High School.  The responsibilities of parenthood, compounded by some injuries, have kept him away for a while.  We're glad he's back.

    Father-son team of Spencer and Joe Mannion finished 6th and 22nd today.  For Joe, it was his first-ever Roxbury race. Early on, he was heard hoping that the course wasn't very hilly.  Despite those hopes being mercilessly dashed, he did mention maybe coming back someday. 

Pictures

    Up top, Scott Benjamin gives the safety warning.  Chuck Rocca and Erik Gundel lurk in the background.  Then Al Mletzko and Corinne Bellemare join the Hall of Fame.  All the other pictures already have captions.

A foggy start at the August 23 race of 8.2 miles

     The Roxbury Races are now listed on the Internet both on RunningInTheUSA and on HiTekRacing.com.  For information contact Bob Lewis at ctstaterunner (at) yahoo (dot) com, or at 203 240 0162.

Last week's results (5.0 miles - West Apple/Squire Road)       

Next week (when available) (The Roxbury Mile) 

 

 

This week's results

 
place time name age pace per mile
1 49.08 Jeff Sheldon 28 6.00
2 50.49 Taylor Phillips 17 6.12
3 52.04 James Moen 17 6.21
4 52.58 Chris Deming 41 6.28
5 54.22 Paul Malek 16 6.38
6 54.23 Spencer Mannion 15 6.38
7 54.56 Brian Vanderheiden 38 6.42
8 57.00 Colin Lennon 15 6.57
9 57.05 Joe Mendes 42 6.58
10 57.35 Ed Sandifer 56 7.01
11 58.25 Zach Wortman 17 7.07
12 59.48 Steve Benoit 56 7.18
13 60.25 Sean Kerton 17 7.22
14 60.25 Ray Fico 42 7.22
15 60.32 Andrew Mendelson 16 7.23
16 62.17 Jeff Tindell 58 7.36
17 62.19 Dan Lynch 46 7.36
18 63.07 Ben Lofink 15 7.42
19 63.42 Mark Zerbe 48 7.46
20 63.57 Connor Lofink 17 7.48
21 64.57 Tom McNulty 42 7.55
22 67.16 Joe Mannion 47 8.12
23 67.18 David Mariani 44 8.12
24 68.21 J T Schemm 32 8.20
25 68.46 Cindy Scannell 50 8.23
26 71.28 Matt Curran 15 8.43
27 72.20 Lynn Zuback 43 8.49
28 72.31 Scott Benjamin 50 8.51
29 73.10 Mario Hasz 59 8.55
30 74.33 Bob Lewis 43 9.05
31 79.16 Russ Pribanic 54 9.40
32 97.00 Sharon Gawe 56 11.50
33 97.11 Mo van Moffaert 48 11.51

 

  Alternate courses

 
place name age distance time
34 Ryland Grudzinski 14 4.80 57.42
35 Bob Satterlee 59 4.10
36 Amanda Deming 10 0.82 8.56
37 Larry Deming 51 0.82 12.44

 

 

 

Deming Brothers, Chris and Larry

 

Four colorful outfits, one far too colorful.

 

 

Amanda Deming, Princess of Stopwatch

 

Current points standings

 

Week 25

 

    Women's points leader Mary Schafer missed this week and fell from the Top Ten, replaced by a scant five points by Mark Zerbe.  Chris Deming beat Dan Lynch on the road to move into third place by just one point.  Chuck Rocca missed again this week, but clings to a five point margin over Mark Zerbe for ninth place.

 

    Jolting Joe Mendes took another point out of the Fossil's overall lead, cutting it to 61 points, but with 15 races left in the season, it will take bigger margins than that for Joe to grab the title.

 

    We welcome five rookies this week, including our old friend J T Schemm.  We also have three new Centurions, James Moen, Connor Lofink and Steve Benoit, bringing the season's Centurion population to 83.  Jolting Joe Mendes stands just one point short of the Millenium Milestone at 999.

 

    In the table below, runners who have not missed a race yet this year are marked with a *.  Rookies, those running their first Roxbury race of the season, are marked with an "R", and people reaching 100-point milestones are marked with a C.  People whose ages were different this week than they were in our data base are marked with a B.  If everything in the data base works perfectly, this means they had a birthday recently, but we know the data base isn't perfect. Other symbols and doodads may be added later in the season. 

 

now last change points

name

 age div races C wins star
1 1 0 1060 Ed Sandifer 56 25 *
2 2 0 999 Joe Mendes 42 24
3 4 1 884 Chris Deming 41 20 5
4 3 -1 883 Dan Lynch 46 22
5 5 0 831 Lou Denaro 48 17
6 6 0 722 Brian Gildea 47 19
7 7 0 701 David Mariani 44 21 C
8 8 0 692 Scott Benjamin 50 25 *
9 9 0 672 Chuck Rocca 35 18
10 11 1 667 Mark Zerbe 49 20
11 10 -1 662 Mary Schafer 33 F 18 15
12 12 0 596 Russ Pribanic 54 20
13 14 1 590 Bob Lewis 43 25 *
14 13 -1 583 Nate Mahrer 36 17
15 15 0 571 Larry Deming 51 24
16 17 1 532 Jeff Tindell 58 14
17 16 -1 516 Matt Cappiello 43 10
18 20 2 471 Mario Hasz 59 20
19 18 -1 465 Paul Butler 50 19
20 19 -1 465 Bruce Goulart 58 12
21 23 2 436 Jeff Sheldon 28 10 C 7
22 21 -1 436 Steve Haas 52 9
23 22 -1 431 Joe Whelan 43 8 2
24 24 0 400 Bob Satterlee 59 22 C
25 25 0 399 Ray Fico 42 12
26 31 5 370 Brian Vanderheiden 38 10
27 28 1 368 Lynn Zuback 42 F 17 1
28 26 -2 364 Mike Abraham 49 9
29 27 -2 357 Tom Dever 55 11
30 29 -1 353 Harry Ong 68 13
31 30 -1 336 Paul Courtney 45 22
32 32 0 319 John Whalen 42 7
33 33 0 308 Jon Binzen 51 8
34 34 0 296 Dudley Ong 7 O 11
35 35 0 293 Dave Harvey 44 6
36 36 0 286 Scott Holmes 47 6
37 37 0 285 Andrew Levy 21 6 3
38 38 0 280 Nora Hulton 44 F 10 1
39 39 0 274 Theresa Oria 41 F 17
40 44 4 260 Paul Malek 16 6
41 40 -1 250 Chris Childs 49 6
42 42 0 232 Mo van Moffaert 48 F 16
43 41 -2 229 John Adomelis 53 5
44 43 -1 223 Don Smith 64 6
45 45 0 215 Adam Levy 23 5
46 49 3 213 Cindy Scannell 50 F 9 C 2
47 57 10 209 Taylor Phillips 17 5 C
48 46 -2 205 Ed Moros 60 9
49 47 -2 203 Mike Taylor 42 4
50 48 -2 198 John Murphy Jr 58 7
51 51 0 192 Sharon Gawe 55 F 14
52 50 -2 189 Kurt Thoennessen 29 9
53 58 5 187 Tom McNulty 42 7
54 52 -2 176 Ross Levy 57 6
55 53 -2 174 Louis Garguilo 30 3
56 54 -2 172 Pat Moore 46 F 12
57 55 -2 171 Theresa Krebs 38 F 5 2
58 56 -2 169 Charlie Euston 63 17
59 59 0 157 Bob Moore 50 8
60 70 10 155 Zach Wortman 17 4
61 60 -1 152 LeeAnne Zarger 54 F 15
62 61 -1 152 Katie Neils 15 F 6
63 62 -1 151 Rosie Morehouse 5 O 3
64 63 -1 148 Andrew Morehouse 41 3
65 64 -1 148 John Hirsch 33 3 2
66 74 8 142 Sean Kerton 17 4
67 65 -2 141 Alissa Pajer 21 F 3 3
68 83 15 133 James Moen 17 3 C
69 66 -3 130 Prasama Sangkachand 49 F 16
70 67 -3 130 Mark Losacco 39 3
71 68 -3 128 Erik Gundel 21 5
72 69 -3 124 John Porges 40 3
73 71 -2 123 Brittany Ronan 17 5
74 72 -2 120 Brian Solt 35 7
75 73 -2 117 Chris Powderly 56 6
76 75 -1 112 Michael Hicks 39 8
77 76 -1 111 Scott Bussom 29 2
78 77 -1 110 Ron Karl 67 14
79 93 14 103 Connor Lofink 17 4 C
80 101 21 102 Steve Benoit 55 3 C
81 78 -3 101 Roderic McGahren 39 4
82 79 -3 101 David Dion 17 2
83 80 -3 100 Dan Lamb 46 3
84 85 1 95 Amanda Deming 10 F 16
85 81 -4 95 Jim Little 54 10
86 82 -4 95 Chris Zarzycki 52 4
87 84 -3 94 Kevin Curley 27 2 1
88 86 -2 90 Wendy Carlson F 5
89 87 -2 89 John Kane 56 3
90 88 -2 88 Dan Decrescenco 17 1 1
91 89 -2 87 Craig Hunt 17 1
92 90 -2 86 Jay McGorty 16 1
93 91 -2 85 Dan Watson 17 1
94 92 -2 84 Zack Krause 16 1
95 94 -1 81 Doug Lee 47 2
96 137 41 81 Spencer Mannion 15 2
97 95 -2 76 Eric Myhill 41 3
98 96 -2 76 Evan Wright 15 1
99 97 -2 75 Michele Westervelt 38 F 5
100 98 -2 75 Unknown 3
101 99 -2 75 Connor Greene 16 1
102 100 -2 73 Terri Lee 44 F 2
103 152 49 71 Colin Lennon 15 2
104 102 -2 71 Neil Walsh 18 1
105 103 -2 70 Mike Piersal 15 1
106 104 -2 69 Al Mletzko 66 7
107 105 -2 68 Michael Croft 30 1
108 106 -2 66 Jeanne Bartkus 49 F 5
109 107 -2 66 Heather Whalen 43 F 4
110 146 36 66 Andrew Mendelson 16 2
111 108 -3 65 Dawn Riebeling 23 F 2 1
112 109 -3 65 Patrick Firmender 15 1
113 110 -3 64 Collin Deming 8 9
114 111 -3 63 Patrick O'Brien 16 1
115 112 -3 61 Sarah Whalen 12 F 3
116 113 -3 61 Kenny Heyne 14 1
117 114 -3 60 Jon Ong 44 2
118 115 -3 60 Alessandro Criollo 16 1
119 116 -3 58 Brittany Moore 16 F 1
120 117 -3 57 Lily Horton 16 F 1
121 118 -3 56 Mark Andrejczyk 35 1
122 119 -3 55 Nina Oria 14 F 3
123 120 -3 54 Kyle Hobbs 16 1
124 121 -3 52 Glenn van Moffaert 19 1
125 122 -3 52 Kelsey Maikay 17 F 1
126 123 -3 52 Mike Szerkowicz 18 1
127 124 -3 51 Garrett Derringer 15 1 1
128 125 -3 50 Drew Firmender 21 1 1
129 126 -3 50 Ken Levalle 18 1
130 127 -3 50 Pat Hall 52 F 1
131 128 -3 49 Jack Whalen 10 3
132 129 -3 49 Mia Myhill 5 O 2
133 130 -3 49 Jim Lee 49 1
134 131 -3 48 Janet Levy 54 F 6
135 132 -3 48 Bob Derringer 46 1
136 133 -3 48 Nathaniel Kay 16 1
137 134 -3 47 Ken Burke 61 1
138 135 -3 46 Kara Thoennessen 1.5 F 3
139 136 -3 45 Jason Satterlee 33 1
140 138 -2 44 Alex Ehrenreich 18 1
141 139 -2 44 Wyatt Golding 23 1 1
142 140 -2 43 Chris DePalma 41 1
143 141 -2 43 Jesse Steinmetz 14 1
144 142 -2 42 Doug Langley 20 1
145 143 -2 41 Sheila Anson 51 F 2
146 144 -2 40 Paul Yaunsem 17 1
147 145 -2 39 Rick DeWitt 50 2
148 147 -1 39 Bob Trumbley 47 1
149 148 -1 39 Lisa Andrews 25 F 1
150 149 -1 39 Shannon Tredennick 38 F 1
151 150 -1 38 Susan DeWitt 42 F 2
152 151 -1 37 Michelle Courtney 14 F 3
153 153 0 37 Pete Gillen 26 1
154 154 0 37 Thomas Scarola 46 1
155 155 0 36 Pat Dennen 28 1 1
156 156 0 36 Tyler Kniery 17 1
157 157 0 35 Ishmael Chesto 37 1
158 158 0 35 Richard Hunt 61 1
159 159 0 33 Sid Phadnis 16 2
160 160 0 33 Jackie Devito 16 F 1
161 161 0 33 John Richers 53 1
162 162 0 33 Ryan Phillips 28 1
163 163 0 32 Raymond Pajer 59 2
164 164 0 32 Chris Peterson 15 1
165 165 0 32 Gary Coolbeth Jr 35 1
166 166 0 31 Armand Wilson 19 1
167 167 0 31 Dave Van Moffaert 17 1
168 168 0 30 Chris Morcone 1
169 169 0 30 Gerry Heyde 56 1
170 170 0 30 Gil Rubin 60 1
171 171 0 30 Mimi Gillen 58 F 1
172 172 0 30 Tom Brayton 45 1
173 173 0 29 Karen Kay 48 F 1
174 174 0 28 Kevin Peterson 15 1
175 175 0 28 Stephen Yu 46 1
176 176 0 27 Lucky Zarger 1 O 3
177 177 0 27 Stacey Kennedy 38 F 2
178 178 0 26 Andrea Thoennessen 29 F 1
179 179 0 25 Jacob Collette 15 1
180 180 0 25 Jorge Lopez 43 1
181 181 0 25 Ray Pajer 59 1
182 24 Ben Lofink 15 1 R
183 182 -1 24 P.J. Scappatura 14 1
184 183 -1 24 Steve Greene 54 1
185 184 -1 23 Lola Zarger 1 O 2
186 185 -1 23 Sinead Blevio 35 F 1
187 186 -1 22 Beverly Pajer 55 F 2
188 187 -1 22 Barbara Kiselak 51 F 1
189 188 -1 22 Joanne Emanuel 40 F 1
190 189 -1 22 Rebecca Press 36 F 1
191 190 -1 22 Tommy Vanderheiden 3 1
192 191 -1 21 Bill Hoey 1
193 192 -1 21 Dave Blauch 29 1
194 193 -1 21 Haley Nagamatsu 14 1
195 194 -1 21 Jack Kennedy 9 1
196 195 -1 21 Rory Goodwin 52 1
197 196 -1 20 Britanny Ronan 17 F 1
198 20 Joe Mannion 47 1 R
199 197 -2 20 Michelle Norella 42 F 1
200 198 -2 19 Shannon Bartkus 14 F 2
201 199 -2 19 Charlie Hastey 46 1
202 200 -2 19 Jackie Brown 15 F 1
203 201 -2 19 Kristine Dziezynski 38 F 1
204 202 -2 18 Adam Fox 13 1
205 203 -2 18 Aimee Reutzel 16 F 1
206 204 -2 18 Gregg Nolting 54 1
207 18 J T Schemm 32 1 R
208 205 -3 17 Nichole Souza 15 F 1
209 206 -3 16 Matt Curran 15 1
210 16 Matt Curran 15 1 R
211 207 -4 16 Ryan McNulty 7 1
212 208 -4 15 Kevin McNulty 8 1
213 209 -4 15 Rosie Ong 66 F 1
214 210 -4 14 Ally Bierce 15 F 1
215 211 -4 14 Gary Coolbeth Sr 57 1
216 212 -4 14 Jack Fico 9 1
217 213 -4 13 Catherine Mendes 9 F 1
218 214 -4 13 Deborah Coolbeth 54 F 1
219 215 -4 13 Mariah Walsh 15 F 1
220 216 -4 13 Mary Lou White 52 F 1
221 217 -4 12 Jennifer Bacleau 34 F 1
222 218 -4 11 Angelica Mendes 14 F 1
223 219 -4 11 Kandace Yuen F 1
224 220 -4 11 Michael Kersten 37 1
225 221 -4 11 Sarah Swanson 15 F 1
226 222 -4 11 Stormy Chamberlain 32 1
227 223 -4 10 Mary Deming 84 F 2
228 224 -4 10 Jordan Butler 14 1
229 225 -4 9 Bonnie Murray 44 F 1
230 226 -4 9 Duncan Engel 17 1
231 227 -4 9 Ian McNulty 4 1
232 228 -4 8 Chelsea Smith 16 F 1
233 229 -4 7 Brittany Orbecker 14 F 1
234 230 -4 7 Erin McNulty 10 mos. F 1
235 231 -4 7 Judy Larson 52 F 1
236 7 Ryland Grudzinski 14 1 R
237 232 -5 6 Ann Schafer 31 F 1
238 233 -5 6 Joan Temple 52 F 1
239 234 -5 6 Kyle Knight 41 F 1
240 235 -5 6 Maura McNulty 41 F 1
241 236 -5 6 Pam Quist 44 F 1
242 237 -5 5 Alissa Mendes 37 F 1
243 238 -5 5 Chloe Karl 63 F 1
244 239 -5 5 Mary Beth Morrison 51 F 1

 

 

Created August 23, 2008

 

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